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The table below shows the exact points at which insurance EV >= 0 using the KO counting system for 8 decks. The table was derived using a weighted average of all the possible subsets given the listed player 2 card hand and allowing for dealer's up card of ace. It was compiled using only running counts at all possible penetrations. At the end of the table there is a true count conversion approximation. It is assumed initial running count = -32.

8 Deck Insurance - KO Count [L=(2,3,4,5,6,7): Tag = -1] [M=(8,9): Tag = 0] [T=(10): Tag = +1] [A=(Ace): Tag = +1]
Hand Run Count Insure when this many cards remain in deck True Count Ref
L-L -5 329-363 -0.79 to -0.72
" -4 251-380 -0.83 to -0.55
" -3 187-384* -0.83 to -0.41
" -2 >=125, 384* -0.83
" -1 >=65 -0.80
" 0 2, 4, 6, 8, >=10 -----
" +1 Always insure -----
L-M -5 274-380 -0.95 to -0.68
" -4 217-384* -0.96 to -0.54
" -3 >=163, 384* -0.96
" -2 >=109 -0.95
" -1 >=57 -0.91
" 0 2, 4, 6, 8, >=10 -----
" +1 Always insure -----
L-T -4 280-369 -0.74 to -0.56
" -3 205-378 -0.76 to -0.41
" -2 137-381* -0.76 to -0.27
" -1 >=71, 381* -0.73
" 0 2, 4, 6, 8, >=10 -----
" +1 Always insure -----
L-A -6 287-380 -1.09 to -0.82
" -5 236-384* -1.10 to -0.68
" -4 >=189, 384* -1.10
" -3 >=142 -1.10
" -2 >=96 -1.08
" -1 >=50 -1.04
" 0 2, 4, 6, >=8 -----
" +1 Always insure -----
M-M -6 292-380 -1.07 to -0.82
" -5 240-384* -1.08 to 0.68
" -4 >=192, 384* -1.08
" -3 >=144 -1.08
" -2 >=97 -1.07
" -1 >=50 -1.04
" 0 2, 4, 6, >=8 -----
" +1 Always insure -----
M-T -5 304-367 -0.86 to -0.71
" -4 236-378 -0.88 to -0.55
" -3 176-381* -0.89 to -0.41
" -2 >=118, 381* -0.88
" -1 >=61 -0.85
" 0 2, 4, 6, 8, >=10 -----
" +1 Always insure -----
M-A -7 302-380 -1.21 to -0.96
" -6 255-384* -1.22 to -0.81
" -5 >=212, 384* -1.23
" -4 >=169 -1.23
" -3 >=128 +1.22
" -2 >=86 -1.21
" -1 >=45 -1.16
" 0 2, 4, 6, >=8 -----
" +1 Always insure -----
T-T -3 229-369 -0.68 to -0.42
" -2 151-375 -0.69 to -0.28
" -1 78-378* -0.67 to -0.14
" 0 2, 4, 6, 8, >=10, 378* -----
" +1 Always insure -----
T-A -6 315-367 -0.99 to -0.85
" -5 254-378 -1.02 to -0.69
" -4 202-381* -1.03 to -0.55
" -3 >=151, 381* -1.03
" -2 >=102 -1.02
" -1 >=53 -0.98
" 0 2, 4, 6, >=8 -----
" +1 Always insure -----
A-A -8 310-380 -1.34 to -1.09
" -7 267-384* -1.36 to -0.95
" -6 >=228, 384* -1.37
" -5 >=190 -1.37
" -4 >=152 -1.37
" -3 >=115 -1.36
" -2 >=77 -1.35
" -1 >=40 -1.30
" 0 2, 4, 6, >=8 -----
" +1 Always insure -----
* denotes an even (EV = 0) insurance bet for the referenced number of remaining cards

Worst case true count approximations

	L-L Insure if TC >= -0.79
L-M Insure if TC >= -0.91
L-T Insure if TC >= -0.73
L-A Insure if TC >= -1.04
M-M Insure if TC >= -1.04
M-T Insure if TC >= -0.85
M-A Insure if TC >= -1.16
T-T Insure if TC >= -0.67
T-A Insure if TC >= -0.98
A-A Insure if TC >= -1.30

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